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	<title>Comments on: 4e Holiday Crack That Saves You Money</title>
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		<title>By: Swordgleam</title>
		<link>http://worldofalidor.com/4th-ed/2009/12/06/4e-holiday-crack-that-saves-you-money/comment-page-1/#comment-976</link>
		<dc:creator>Swordgleam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 16:08:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@shent_lodge: I&#039;m not sure how. I&#039;m the DM - I don&#039;t need those classes, my players do. And if they&#039;re not in a book we can pass around the table, it&#039;s not going to work. Having all my players clustered around my laptop is not my idea of a fun gaming time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@shent_lodge: I&#8217;m not sure how. I&#8217;m the DM &#8211; I don&#8217;t need those classes, my players do. And if they&#8217;re not in a book we can pass around the table, it&#8217;s not going to work. Having all my players clustered around my laptop is not my idea of a fun gaming time.</p>
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		<title>By: shent_lodge</title>
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		<dc:creator>shent_lodge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 01:54:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@greywolf I forget sometimes that not everyone has a computer. I know DDI works well on XP-pro SP2 in Parallels. I work in a college environment and see a lot of students with Acer and Toshiba mini laptops that are about the same price as a Playstation3. Considering my first laptop cost $4,500.00 in 1998 and had a 11inch display, $350.00 is amazing price for something a zillion times more advanced. I know colleges surplus their computers so you can get those real inexpensive. Craigslist and ebay are another great place to shop for used computers. You can also ham up to that relative that has too many computers, I have given away half a dozen systems to my nieces and nephews over the years. I was able to convince my wife to let me try a subscription after I showed her the DDI demo which works up to 3rd level. DDI is not as personal as the old pen and paper way but when you can get a group of new players up and going with all the right stuff in minutes spanning across many many rule books, it really does payoff. The D&amp;D starter kit and white board is a great idea too.

@Bloodwin You are right, Enworld and WotC forums are excellent resources for the game outside the RPGbloggers network.

@Swordgleam The core books are a great deal and getting them used is even a better one. Though it has been a couple months since I actually played at a table with PHB characters, Most the tables I have been at use either PHBII or DDI access only characters. Once you sit at a table with some of the &quot;non-core&quot; classes and see what they can do, then you will be off buying that book... And the next. Getting the DDI subscription right off can save you money.
.-= shent_lodge´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.worldofalidor.com/2009/12/06/map-of-central-jelling/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Map of Central Jelling&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@greywolf I forget sometimes that not everyone has a computer. I know DDI works well on XP-pro SP2 in Parallels. I work in a college environment and see a lot of students with Acer and Toshiba mini laptops that are about the same price as a Playstation3. Considering my first laptop cost $4,500.00 in 1998 and had a 11inch display, $350.00 is amazing price for something a zillion times more advanced. I know colleges surplus their computers so you can get those real inexpensive. Craigslist and ebay are another great place to shop for used computers. You can also ham up to that relative that has too many computers, I have given away half a dozen systems to my nieces and nephews over the years. I was able to convince my wife to let me try a subscription after I showed her the DDI demo which works up to 3rd level. DDI is not as personal as the old pen and paper way but when you can get a group of new players up and going with all the right stuff in minutes spanning across many many rule books, it really does payoff. The D&#038;D starter kit and white board is a great idea too.</p>
<p>@Bloodwin You are right, Enworld and WotC forums are excellent resources for the game outside the RPGbloggers network.</p>
<p>@Swordgleam The core books are a great deal and getting them used is even a better one. Though it has been a couple months since I actually played at a table with PHB characters, Most the tables I have been at use either PHBII or DDI access only characters. Once you sit at a table with some of the &#8220;non-core&#8221; classes and see what they can do, then you will be off buying that book&#8230; And the next. Getting the DDI subscription right off can save you money.<br />
.-= shent_lodge´s last blog ..<a href="http://www.worldofalidor.com/2009/12/06/map-of-central-jelling/" rel="nofollow">Map of Central Jelling</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Swordgleam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Swordgleam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 00:17:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Count me as another person who&#039;d rather buy the core books than DDI. To me, anything that charges subscription fees is automatically more expensive than a product I pay for once, because the cost never ends. For better or for worse, my mental calculations chalk that one up as &quot;infinite.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Count me as another person who&#8217;d rather buy the core books than DDI. To me, anything that charges subscription fees is automatically more expensive than a product I pay for once, because the cost never ends. For better or for worse, my mental calculations chalk that one up as &#8220;infinite.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Bloodwin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bloodwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 21:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting tips but I think you are ignoring one thing; to read this article you need a PC, if you can afford a PC buying PH1 isn&#039;t going to kill you. I agree about the power cards as them character builder does a much better job and the DM screen needed errata after a very short time. I wouldn&#039;t say you &#039;need&#039; a calculator. As the DM I felt I needed one for dividing XP but that was all that concerned me.

I&#039;d also suggest good websites where you can get good information and ideas and opinions on D&amp;D, I found you by way of www.rpgbloggers.com aside from the WotC forums EN World is also interesting as a starting point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting tips but I think you are ignoring one thing; to read this article you need a PC, if you can afford a PC buying PH1 isn&#8217;t going to kill you. I agree about the power cards as them character builder does a much better job and the DM screen needed errata after a very short time. I wouldn&#8217;t say you &#8216;need&#8217; a calculator. As the DM I felt I needed one for dividing XP but that was all that concerned me.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d also suggest good websites where you can get good information and ideas and opinions on D&amp;D, I found you by way of <a href="http://www.rpgbloggers.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.rpgbloggers.com</a> aside from the WotC forums EN World is also interesting as a starting point.</p>
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		<title>By: Hymn Collections For The Week of 11/30 &#171; The Spirits of Eden</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hymn Collections For The Week of 11/30 &#171; The Spirits of Eden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 20:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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